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  • Use this thread to discuss season 4 episode 8, God Complex!!

    Personally, I loved the episode and I was the most interested in all of the stuff happening on Becca's Island where things just kept getting worse and worse haha.

    I also really loved the whole Monty, Kane, Jaha, Gaia, and Indra squad and even though I'm upset Indra punched Kane in the face I still get where she's coming from.

    Also, Marper in this episode was pretty emotionally heavy. 

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    • GAHHH. Abby destroying the radiation chamber. I'm so worried about her.

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    • I liked the episode better than last weeks.

      I just hope they make sure that the bunker is actually safe.

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    • Clarke is now one of the only two Nightbloods alive, and the other doesn't want to be Heda. I think we all know where this is going.

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    • I really liked this episode, it was one of my favorites so far. I'm also starting to like jaha much more.

      I'm really struggling with Emori's character; she does so much to put her self before others and that just really bothers me.

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    • Starz.108 wrote:
      I really liked this episode, it was one of my favorites so far. I'm also starting to like jaha much more.

      I'm really struggling with Emori's character; she does so much to put her self before others and that just really bothers me.

      True. At first, Jaha was one of the annoying characters. I feel like he and Kane have undergone a big character development. I really like Kane. Kabby is also one of the strongest ships atm.

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    • Tammzz wrote:
      Starz.108 wrote:
      I really liked this episode, it was one of my favorites so far. I'm also starting to like jaha much more.

      I'm really struggling with Emori's character; she does so much to put her self before others and that just really bothers me.

      True. At first, Jaha was one of the annoying characters. I feel like he and Kane have undergone a big character development. I really like Kane. Kabby is also one of the strongest ships atm.

      Agreed. Kane has been a whirlwind of character development (and is still going strong), and Jaha has definitely improved in my book.

      I'm interested to see what happens with the bunker, and I was rather surprised there weren't any people in it (alive or dead). I also haven't counted out a return to space yet. It was hyped up on the 100 social media, and featured in the opening credits intro scenes. 

      Also... the alliance web has gotten complicated now, which is interesting for the future. I wonder what will happen between Azgeda and Arkadia now that Arkadia armed Trikru with guns to kill warriors from Azgeda. I guess that's the kind of situation you end up in when you're in alliance with two factions and they are at war with each other. :)

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    • Chancellor1 wrote:
      Tammzz wrote:
      Starz.108 wrote:
      I really liked this episode, it was one of my favorites so far. I'm also starting to like jaha much more.

      I'm really struggling with Emori's character; she does so much to put her self before others and that just really bothers me.

      True. At first, Jaha was one of the annoying characters. I feel like he and Kane have undergone a big character development. I really like Kane. Kabby is also one of the strongest ships atm.
      Agreed. Kane has been a whirlwind of character development (and is still going strong), and Jaha has definitely improved in my book.

      I'm interested to see what happens with the bunker, and I was rather surprised there weren't any people in it (alive or dead). I also haven't counted out a return to space yet. It was hyped up on the 100 social media, and featured in the opening credits intro scenes. 

      Also... the alliance web has gotten complicated now, which is interesting for the future. I wonder what will happen between Azgeda and Arkadia now that Arkadia armed Trikru with guns to kill warriors from Azgeda. I guess that's the kind of situation you end up in when you're in alliance with two factions and they are at war with each other. :)

      True. I feel like there will definitely be a conflict between who gets to share the bunker with who. Yes, sky people made an alliance with Azgeda, but Trikru helped find it and they've already made their intentions clear on the matter with Azgeda not being allowed to enter the bunker. We'll see what happens between them. I'm super hyped since the bunker is their last option and I've been waiting for a solution for a long time. Hope this one stays for good. 

      I feel like Indra has a right to be hurt, because after all they've been through, but they should try and heal their relationship. And I also hope Octavia returns.

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    • Tammzz wrote:

      Chancellor1 wrote:
      Tammzz wrote:
      Starz.108 wrote:
      I really liked this episode, it was one of my favorites so far. I'm also starting to like jaha much more.

      I'm really struggling with Emori's character; she does so much to put her self before others and that just really bothers me.

      True. At first, Jaha was one of the annoying characters. I feel like he and Kane have undergone a big character development. I really like Kane. Kabby is also one of the strongest ships atm.
      Agreed. Kane has been a whirlwind of character development (and is still going strong), and Jaha has definitely improved in my book.

      I'm interested to see what happens with the bunker, and I was rather surprised there weren't any people in it (alive or dead). I also haven't counted out a return to space yet. It was hyped up on the 100 social media, and featured in the opening credits intro scenes. 

      Also... the alliance web has gotten complicated now, which is interesting for the future. I wonder what will happen between Azgeda and Arkadia now that Arkadia armed Trikru with guns to kill warriors from Azgeda. I guess that's the kind of situation you end up in when you're in alliance with two factions and they are at war with each other. :)

      True. I feel like there will definitely be a conflict between who gets to share the bunker with who. Yes, sky people made an alliance with Azgeda, but Trikru helped find it and they've already made their intentions clear on the matter with Azgeda not being allowed to enter the bunker. We'll see what happens between them. I'm super hyped since the bunker is their last option and I've been waiting for a solution for a long time. Hope this one stays for good. 

      I feel like Indra has a right to be hurt, because after all they've been through, but they should try and heal their relationship. And I also hope Octavia returns.

      Octavia is probably still with Ilian.

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    • I enjoyed this episode, it was filled with  drama. It was fun to see how skikru was becoming the mountain men. With the finding of the bunker, can we assume that all the clans people are the descendants of the survivors from the bunker ?

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    • 96.250.185.129 wrote:
      I enjoyed this episode, it was filled with  drama. It was fun to see how skikru was becoming the mountain men. With the finding of the bunker, can we assume that all the clans people are the descendants of the survivors from the bunker ?

      that would make the most sense. but wouldn't it be interesting if there were still people down there?

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    • It would be kind of cool if there were still people down there. :)

      BTW... regarding Arkadia becoming the new mount weather, I actually support the marrow harvesting here. This time it isn't about saving one people, but all of humanity. If you have to do some messed up stuff in the process, it's an unfortunate but necessary requirement, not a choice that could've been made differently. MY could've survived in the mountain, and President Dante Wallace even ordered the end to marrow treatement for that reason. Arkadia can't survive (or at least they couldn't have before the bunker was found) without the nightblood marrow, and neither can anyone else. I have Kane's attitude when it comes to saving the human race... whatever is necessary.

      This is one of the things I love about the 100! It makes you think about your morals, and take sides in a world that is filled with shades of grey. It is powerful.

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    • Well, this episode was very exciting

      "Welcome to mount weather" raven is right, they are doing the same thing they did in season two with the 100.

      I broke my heart to see murphy praying that they would not use emori as a test subject, that scene with clarke was very intense!

      The trikru-skykru-azgeda triple alliance is very strong. I'm already imagining the faces of all when they see who are with whom!

      On the other hand, having found that bunker has been the solution of all but at the same time the perdition of all (who supports me in this?) Because, how will they (clarke and bellamy) to get everyone there?

      Finally, we are learning a lot (of something we did not know existed (not even jason wise) since the first season) with all this radiation and bunker and that there is salvation and all that! It's super exciting

      (I used the translator, so, if there is no consistency with some things, I'm sorry)

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    • Chancellor1 wrote:
      It would be kind of cool if there were still people down there. :)

      BTW... regarding Arkadia becoming the new mount weather, I actually support the marrow harvesting here. This time it isn't about saving one people, but all of humanity. If you have to do some messed up stuff in the process, it's an unfortunate but necessary requirement, not a choice that could've been made differently. MY could've survived in the mountain, and President Dante Wallace even ordered the end to marrow treatement for that reason. Arkadia can't survive (or at least they couldn't have before the bunker was found) without the nightblood marrow, and neither can anyone else. I have Kane's attitude when it comes to saving the human race... whatever is necessary.

      This is one of the things I love about the 100! It makes you think about your morals, and take sides in a world that is filled with shades of grey. It is powerful.

      so far i've learned that i would have killed more people than clarke. nobody ever put me in charge in a real apocalypse

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    • Maxcarstairs wrote:

      Chancellor1 wrote:
      It would be kind of cool if there were still people down there. :)

      BTW... regarding Arkadia becoming the new mount weather, I actually support the marrow harvesting here. This time it isn't about saving one people, but all of humanity. If you have to do some messed up stuff in the process, it's an unfortunate but necessary requirement, not a choice that could've been made differently. MY could've survived in the mountain, and President Dante Wallace even ordered the end to marrow treatement for that reason. Arkadia can't survive (or at least they couldn't have before the bunker was found) without the nightblood marrow, and neither can anyone else. I have Kane's attitude when it comes to saving the human race... whatever is necessary.

      This is one of the things I love about the 100! It makes you think about your morals, and take sides in a world that is filled with shades of grey. It is powerful.

      so far i've learned that i would have killed more people than clarke. nobody ever put me in charge in a real apocalypse

      Yeah, there's definitely a big allure to worlds like this one indeed.

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    • Maxcarstairs wrote:
      96.250.185.129 wrote:
      I enjoyed this episode, it was filled with  drama. It was fun to see how skikru was becoming the mountain men. With the finding of the bunker, can we assume that all the clans people are the descendants of the survivors from the bunker ?
      that would make the most sense. but wouldn't it be interesting if there were still people down there?

      What about the mountain men, were they part of the bunker survivors? They were so different from the other clans,no immunity to radiation.

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    • Mountain Men definitely weren't from the bunker. Their ancestors were in Mount Weather when the nukes hit, and so they are completely separate from the grounder clans. Mount Weather didn't even know that the grounders existed until decades after the apocalypse, and the Mountain Men identified them as Savages and Outsiders... noting that they had lost their advanced and technological heritage. Mount Weather and the Clans are from completely separate blood lines, explaining how the Mountain Men didn't breed into the radioactive immunity of the grounders.

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    • Till this day, Miller deserves more lines and screentime. I can't wait to see how Briller is going further.

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    • Alright I made some notes during so here they are:

      “So you’re going to strap her down and take her bone marrow. Welcome to Mount Weather.” Thank you Raven! Someone said it! I was really sick of them just taking Bone Marrow, I don’t care if you survive if you just lose yourself in the process. 

      “First we survive, then we find our humanity again.” NO! That’s not how that works! When you lose your humanity it’s a part of yourself you can never regain. I should know.

      “Give us your guns.” Dammit Indra. She pissed me off this episode. Wasn’t it in Season 2 that Octavia said that if a grounder were to pick up a gun, even to shoot another Grounder, their entire village will be wiped. Season 4: Let’s just throw that out of the window and shoot to kill. It’s not like anyone is going to worry about what we said two seasons ago. Oh we do JR. We do.

      No, Murphy, No! He’s still my favorite Character, and everyone’s just not thinking clearly. Like I said before, you can’t regain your humanity. The character for Murphy did an amazing job for this episode, but seriously. It's not even surviving anymore, it's just keeping their heart beating, no matter how dark it is. 

      Now for some after thoughts:

      Roan and Clarke. Their relationship together has become a mutual trust, I think. I'm glad that Roan wasn't being completely irrational. To be fair, though it contradicts what it says above, he doesn't really know what's going on and just acts on instinct. It's the Grounder way, and it's true to the show. 

      Cool they found Second Dawn... I'm slightly dissappointed. I was hoping there was going to be a big fight between the people of Second Dawn and the 100/Grounders... that's sad. So, who's staying in the bunker?

      Dammit Bellamy! Dammit Jasper! Dammit Harper! Dammit everyone who doesn't give two ***ts anymore. Work before play, and trust me... while radiation is out there, there will be plenty of time for play.

      No Octavia this episode... damn. That's not good, considering that she was in every episode (besides Terms and Conditions which I consider to be a two-parter to Thirteen) before now. Now she is at a risk of dying. 

      All in All, it was a good episode... I especially like Raven, Murphy, and Monty.

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      Clarke is now one of the only two Nightbloods alive, and the other doesn't want to be Heda. I think we all know where this is going.

      Yes, the cat out of the bag. Clarke becomes Heada,unites the clans and saves everone. I can stop watching now.( LOL )

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    • Dinoking745765 wrote:
      Alright I made some notes during so here they are:

      “So you’re going to strap her down and take her bone marrow. Welcome to Mount Weather.” Thank you Raven! Someone said it! I was really sick of them just taking Bone Marrow, I don’t care if you survive if you just lose yourself in the process. 

      “First we survive, then we find our humanity again.” NO! That’s not how that works! When you lose your humanity it’s a part of yourself you can never regain. I should know.

      “Give us your guns.” Dammit Indra. She pissed me off this episode. Wasn’t it in Season 2 that Octavia said that if a grounder were to pick up a gun, even to shoot another Grounder, their entire village will be wiped. Season 4: Let’s just throw that out of the window and shoot to kill. It’s not like anyone is going to worry about what we said two seasons ago. Oh we do JR. We do.

      No, Murphy, No! He’s still my favorite Character, and everyone’s just not thinking clearly. Like I said before, you can’t regain your humanity. The character for Murphy did an amazing job for this episode, but seriously. It's not even surviving anymore, it's just keeping their heart beating, no matter how dark it is. 

      I think you are partially right, but I would still contend that they are doing the right thing putting survival first. Yes, they may lose themselves in the process... but it is a selfless sacrifice for the greater good. You may lose yourself, but you save the human race, and allow potentially billions of additional people to find themselves, and to start a new life. It is much less for thm about surviving this themselves, as it is about saving the human species as a whole. I will use Kane on the Ark as an example. He did many things that may be questionable, but he did them all in the name of saving humanity, which to his knowledge only existed on the Ark. If it took reducing to a cosmic Adam and Eve he'd do it, he said. But note... Kane cared little about whether he died in the process or not, because his survival wasn't his number one priority, saving the species was, and he was more than willing to sacrifice himself, morally and literally, to do it. It is that kind of leadership that is necccessary when the world is ending, selfless and stopping at nothing to ensure human survival. On the Ark Jaha noted that, hailing Kane as a leader the Ark needed. Clarke seems to have realized that same fact, and as she proved when injecting herself, she does not care whether she lives or dies, so long as humanity as a whole is saved. 

      This is one of the interesting dilemas of post-apocalyptic philosphy regarding survival, philospohy which has taken center stage on the 100. :)

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    • Chancellor1 wrote:
      Dinoking745765 wrote:
      Alright I made some notes during so here they are:

      “So you’re going to strap her down and take her bone marrow. Welcome to Mount Weather.” Thank you Raven! Someone said it! I was really sick of them just taking Bone Marrow, I don’t care if you survive if you just lose yourself in the process. 

      “First we survive, then we find our humanity again.” NO! That’s not how that works! When you lose your humanity it’s a part of yourself you can never regain. I should know.

      “Give us your guns.” Dammit Indra. She pissed me off this episode. Wasn’t it in Season 2 that Octavia said that if a grounder were to pick up a gun, even to shoot another Grounder, their entire village will be wiped. Season 4: Let’s just throw that out of the window and shoot to kill. It’s not like anyone is going to worry about what we said two seasons ago. Oh we do JR. We do.

      No, Murphy, No! He’s still my favorite Character, and everyone’s just not thinking clearly. Like I said before, you can’t regain your humanity. The character for Murphy did an amazing job for this episode, but seriously. It's not even surviving anymore, it's just keeping their heart beating, no matter how dark it is. 

      I think you are partially right, but I would still contend that they are doing the right thing putting survival first. Yes, they may lose themselves in the process... but it is a selfless sacrifice for the greater good. You may lose yourself, but you save the human race, and allow potentially billions of additional people to find themselves, and to start a new life. It is much less for thm about surviving this themselves, as it is about saving the human species as a whole. I will use Kane on the Ark as an example. He did many things that may be questionable, but he did them all in the name of saving humanity, which to his knowledge only existed on the Ark. If it took reducing to a cosmic Adam and Eve he'd do it, he said. But note... Kane cared little about whether he died in the process or not, because his survival wasn't his number one priority, saving the species was, and he was more than willing to sacrifice himself, morally and literally, to do it. It is that kind of leadership that is necccessary when the world is ending, selfless and stopping at nothing to ensure human survival. On the Ark Jaha noted that, hailing Kane as a leader the Ark needed. Clarke seems to have realized that same fact, and as she proved when injecting herself, she does not care whether she lives or dies, so long as humanity as a whole is saved. 

      This is one of the interesting dilemas of post-apocalyptic philosphy regarding survival, philospohy which has taken center stage on the 100. :)

      Yeah, after Clarke really got to be a leader, she finally understood what it meant to sacrifice for the greater good. I think it's more about experiencing it first hand, cause the old Clarke would absolutely condemn what they're doing now, but this Clarke, after 4 long seasons, understands what's really at stake when it comes to survival. 

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    • Tammzz wrote:
      Chancellor1 wrote:
      Dinoking745765 wrote:
      Alright I made some notes during so here they are:

      “So you’re going to strap her down and take her bone marrow. Welcome to Mount Weather.” Thank you Raven! Someone said it! I was really sick of them just taking Bone Marrow, I don’t care if you survive if you just lose yourself in the process. 

      “First we survive, then we find our humanity again.” NO! That’s not how that works! When you lose your humanity it’s a part of yourself you can never regain. I should know.

      “Give us your guns.” Dammit Indra. She pissed me off this episode. Wasn’t it in Season 2 that Octavia said that if a grounder were to pick up a gun, even to shoot another Grounder, their entire village will be wiped. Season 4: Let’s just throw that out of the window and shoot to kill. It’s not like anyone is going to worry about what we said two seasons ago. Oh we do JR. We do.

      No, Murphy, No! He’s still my favorite Character, and everyone’s just not thinking clearly. Like I said before, you can’t regain your humanity. The character for Murphy did an amazing job for this episode, but seriously. It's not even surviving anymore, it's just keeping their heart beating, no matter how dark it is. 

      I think you are partially right, but I would still contend that they are doing the right thing putting survival first. Yes, they may lose themselves in the process... but it is a selfless sacrifice for the greater good. You may lose yourself, but you save the human race, and allow potentially billions of additional people to find themselves, and to start a new life. It is much less for thm about surviving this themselves, as it is about saving the human species as a whole. I will use Kane on the Ark as an example. He did many things that may be questionable, but he did them all in the name of saving humanity, which to his knowledge only existed on the Ark. If it took reducing to a cosmic Adam and Eve he'd do it, he said. But note... Kane cared little about whether he died in the process or not, because his survival wasn't his number one priority, saving the species was, and he was more than willing to sacrifice himself, morally and literally, to do it. It is that kind of leadership that is necccessary when the world is ending, selfless and stopping at nothing to ensure human survival. On the Ark Jaha noted that, hailing Kane as a leader the Ark needed. Clarke seems to have realized that same fact, and as she proved when injecting herself, she does not care whether she lives or dies, so long as humanity as a whole is saved. 

      This is one of the interesting dilemas of post-apocalyptic philosphy regarding survival, philospohy which has taken center stage on the 100. :)

      Yeah, after Clarke really got to be a leader, she finally understood what it meant to sacrifice for the greater good. I think it's more about experiencing it first hand, cause the old Clarke would absolutely condemn what they're doing now, but this Clarke, after 4 long seasons, understands what's really at stake when it comes to survival. 

      Sometimes I really dislike Clarke's decisions but then I think about what I would do in her position and I realize I would do all the same things. It's really about surviving.

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    • And in this final six days in a few weeks I think we'll really get to see where everyone's loyalties lie, who wants to say their final goodbyes to who in case it doesn't work, and as for me, I'm hoping to see if any last-second relationships fall into place—Clarke for one, because Niylah's there, but they've also been dropping hints about both Bellamy and Roan. So who knows.

      Another thing is, I'm wondering if Murphy and Emori will ever really trust the others again. They don't have much of a choice if the bunker is their only key to salvation, but it'll be interesting to see the tension between them after the whole Emori fiasco.

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    • Sometimes I really dislike Clarke's decisions but then I think about what I would do in her position and I realize I would do all the same things. It's really about surviving.

      Mr Spock would be proud of Clarke. "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"

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    • Maxcarstairs wrote:
      And in this final six days in a few weeks I think we'll really get to see where everyone's loyalties lie, who wants to say their final goodbyes to who in case it doesn't work, and as for me, I'm hoping to see if any last-second relationships fall into place—Clarke for one, because Niylah's there, but they've also been dropping hints about both Bellamy and Roan. So who knows.

      Another thing is, I'm wondering if Murphy and Emori will ever really trust the others again. They don't have much of a choice if the bunker is their only key to salvation, but it'll be interesting to see the tension between them after the whole Emori fiasco.

      I don't think Emori or Murphy ever did trust them, they always carry one motto "survive", even if it' means the downfall of another. If they had a chance, they would save themselves and leave the rest. And now that they know they are disposable, they need to act fast to get a spot in the bunker. We don't really know how many people can fit in, especially now with trikru involved, the alliance between the sky people and Azgeda won't help.

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    • Tammzz wrote:
      Maxcarstairs wrote:
      And in this final six days in a few weeks I think we'll really get to see where everyone's loyalties lie, who wants to say their final goodbyes to who in case it doesn't work, and as for me, I'm hoping to see if any last-second relationships fall into place—Clarke for one, because Niylah's there, but they've also been dropping hints about both Bellamy and Roan. So who knows.

      Another thing is, I'm wondering if Murphy and Emori will ever really trust the others again. They don't have much of a choice if the bunker is their only key to salvation, but it'll be interesting to see the tension between them after the whole Emori fiasco.

      I don't think Emori or Murphy ever did trust them, they always carry one motto "survive", even if it' means the downfall of another. If they had a chance, they would save themselves and leave the rest. And now that they know they are disposable, they need to act fast to get a spot in the bunker. We don't really know how many people can fit in, especially now with trikru involved, the alliance between the sky people and Azgeda won't help.

      It just occurred to me that Murphy and Emori are the opposite of Kane and now Clarke. They all believe in survival at any cost, but for different reasons. Kane and Clarke are about ensuring that the whole of humanity survives, even if they must die in the process. Murphy and Emori are about ensuring that they survive at any cost, even if everyone else must die in the process. It is Selflessness vs Selfishness.

      Of course then there is Jasper, who is about giving up on survival and having fun while you wait to die... making him the polar opposite of all of the above :) 

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    • Andresm. wrote:
      Well, this episode was very exciting

      "Welcome to mount weather" raven is right, they are doing the same thing they did in season two with the 100.

      I broke my heart to see murphy praying that they would not use emori as a test subject, that scene with clarke was very intense!

      The trikru-skykru-azgeda triple alliance is very strong. I'm already imagining the faces of all when they see who are with whom!

      On the other hand, having found that bunker has been the solution of all but at the same time the perdition of all (who supports me in this?) Because, how will they (clarke and bellamy) to get everyone there?

      Finally, we are learning a lot (of something we did not know existed (not even jason wise) since the first season) with all this radiation and bunker and that there is salvation and all that! It's super exciting

      (I used the translator, so, if there is no consistency with some things, I'm sorry)

      ignored :( i don't write here anymore -_-

      andresm.

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    • Where is Octavia been in this episode?!?!

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    • 73.25.69.82 wrote:
      Where is Octavia been in this episode?!?!

      I believe she is still with Illian. Hopefully we will get back to her after the mid-season break. I want Bellamy to know that she's alive :)

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    • Chancellor1 wrote:
      73.25.69.82 wrote:
      Where is Octavia been in this episode?!?!
      I believe she is still with Illian. Hopefully we will get back to her after the mid-season break. I want Bellamy to know that she's alive :)

      Yeah, I want Octavia back. And I wanna know what happened to her and Ilian.

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    • Definitely the best episode of the season so far.

      I wonder how many people the bunker can hold, though, I feel like even if members of SP and and other Clans live there together, there will only be arguing and no real cooperation. Also, based on next episode's trailer, it looks like some people might not even want to survive in a bunker and would rather die.

      Food and water, even if it does exist in the bunker, most likely wouldn't be enough to sustain hundreds or thousands of people for many years, especially if everyone kept reproducing (which would only add to the struggle to survive). The radiation might still be in the air before the next generation can leave, forcing everyone to stay holed up in the bunker, but supplies and food might run out before it's safe to leave. There are too many issues associated with the plan to hide a small part of the human race in the bunker, and I feel like everyone is overestimating the safety of the plan. I doubt it would work long term between the limited resources (if any), fighting between different Clans, and just being confined for so long.

      Do you think the writers would throw a curveball at us and have people already living in the bunker? People could have entered it pre-nuclear war (with another "key", like Jaha had) and just never left.

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    • TheOmegaWerewolf wrote: Definitely the best episode of the season so far.

      I wonder how many people the bunker can hold, though, I feel like even if members of SP and and other Clans live there together, there will only be arguing and no real cooperation. Also, based on next episode's trailer, it looks like some people might not even want to survive in a bunker and would rather die.

      Food and water, even if it does exist in the bunker, most likely wouldn't be enough to sustain hundreds or thousands of people for many years, especially if everyone kept reproducing (which would only add to the struggle to survive). The radiation might still be in the air before the next generation can leave, forcing everyone to stay holed up in the bunker, but supplies and food might run out before it's safe to leave. There are too many issues associated with the plan to hide a small part of the human race in the bunker, and I feel like everyone is overestimating the safety of the plan. I doubt it would work long term between the limited resources (if any), fighting between different Clans, and just being confined for so long.

      Do you think the writers would throw a curveball at us and have people already living in the bunker? People could have entered it pre-nuclear war (with another "key", like Jaha had) and just never left.

      I wonder what they will going to do in those bunkers? How long they have to stay here? Why do some people rather to die instead of survive?

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    • 73.25.69.82 wrote:

      TheOmegaWerewolf wrote: Definitely the best episode of the season so far.

      I wonder how many people the bunker can hold, though, I feel like even if members of SP and and other Clans live there together, there will only be arguing and no real cooperation. Also, based on next episode's trailer, it looks like some people might not even want to survive in a bunker and would rather die.

      Food and water, even if it does exist in the bunker, most likely wouldn't be enough to sustain hundreds or thousands of people for many years, especially if everyone kept reproducing (which would only add to the struggle to survive). The radiation might still be in the air before the next generation can leave, forcing everyone to stay holed up in the bunker, but supplies and food might run out before it's safe to leave. There are too many issues associated with the plan to hide a small part of the human race in the bunker, and I feel like everyone is overestimating the safety of the plan. I doubt it would work long term between the limited resources (if any), fighting between different Clans, and just being confined for so long.

      Do you think the writers would throw a curveball at us and have people already living in the bunker? People could have entered it pre-nuclear war (with another "key", like Jaha had) and just never left.

      I wonder what they will going to do in those bunkers? How long they have to stay here? Why do some people rather to die instead of survive?

      It was stated earlier in the season (while they were outfitting Arkadia to be survivable) that they only needed to stay inside for 5 years before radiation levels reverted to levels considered safe for Arkadians who have solar radiation tested blood. 5 years is certainly do-able, assuming that there is enough food and water, the biggest problem however... is the different groups. Azgeda, Trikru and Arkadia all in the same bunker is an underground massacre, set up like a ticking time bomb, especially if resources become scarce. 

      I still think that they will need additional options. Space maybe (They promoted the return to space too much, and featured the rocket too prominently to abandon it entirely), assuming they happen upon more fuel. :)

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    • TheOmegaWerewolf wrote:
      Definitely the best episode of the season so far.

      I wonder how many people the bunker can hold, though, I feel like even if members of SP and and other Clans live there together, there will only be arguing and no real cooperation. Also, based on next episode's trailer, it looks like some people might not even want to survive in a bunker and would rather die.

      Food and water, even if it does exist in the bunker, most likely wouldn't be enough to sustain hundreds or thousands of people for many years, especially if everyone kept reproducing (which would only add to the struggle to survive). The radiation might still be in the air before the next generation can leave, forcing everyone to stay holed up in the bunker, but supplies and food might run out before it's safe to leave. There are too many issues associated with the plan to hide a small part of the human race in the bunker, and I feel like everyone is overestimating the safety of the plan. I doubt it would work long term between the limited resources (if any), fighting between different Clans, and just being confined for so long.

      Do you think the writers would throw a curveball at us and have people already living in the bunker? People could have entered it pre-nuclear war (with another "key", like Jaha had) and just never left.

      If anyone can pull this off, it would be skikru, they have done the exact scenario you described in space. They have been there and done that. In space the 12 stations come together to survive, on earth the 12 clans came together for peace, so it can be done.  Don't forget the mountain men. they were able to survive.

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    • So who would be in the bunker?

      Skaikru. Trikru. Azgeda. And Luna. The rest of Floukru was wiped out by the radiation. The rest of the clans don't know about the radiation or the bunker. So that's that, then. And it's only five years.

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    • Chancellor1 wrote:
      73.25.69.82 wrote:

      TheOmegaWerewolf wrote: Definitely the best episode of the season so far.

      I wonder how many people the bunker can hold, though, I feel like even if members of SP and and other Clans live there together, there will only be arguing and no real cooperation. Also, based on next episode's trailer, it looks like some people might not even want to survive in a bunker and would rather die.

      Food and water, even if it does exist in the bunker, most likely wouldn't be enough to sustain hundreds or thousands of people for many years, especially if everyone kept reproducing (which would only add to the struggle to survive). The radiation might still be in the air before the next generation can leave, forcing everyone to stay holed up in the bunker, but supplies and food might run out before it's safe to leave. There are too many issues associated with the plan to hide a small part of the human race in the bunker, and I feel like everyone is overestimating the safety of the plan. I doubt it would work long term between the limited resources (if any), fighting between different Clans, and just being confined for so long.

      Do you think the writers would throw a curveball at us and have people already living in the bunker? People could have entered it pre-nuclear war (with another "key", like Jaha had) and just never left.

      I wonder what they will going to do in those bunkers? How long they have to stay here? Why do some people rather to die instead of survive?
      It was stated earlier in the season (while they were outfitting Arkadia to be survivable) that they only needed to stay inside for 5 years before radiation levels reverted to levels considered safe for Arkadians who have solar radiation tested blood. 5 years is certainly do-able, assuming that there is enough food and water, the biggest problem however... is the different groups. Azgeda, Trikru and Arkadia all in the same bunker is an underground massacre, set up like a ticking time bomb, especially if resources become scarce. 

      I still think that they will need additional options. Space maybe (They promoted the return to space too much, and featured the rocket too prominently to abandon it entirely), assuming they happen upon more fuel. :)

      Going back into space will be the insurance policy for humanity if no on survives on the ground.

      It would be an Adam and Eve kind of scenario with only 1 rocket and very limited resources.

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    • I think the bonemarrow that Clarke injected in herself worked and that now she can metabolize radiation. And at the end of the season, everyone but her will be in the bunker when the radiation-wave comes. And then they will all think that Clarke is dead, but then they will find out that she is still alive. And then BELLARKE will happen!!!

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    • 84.30.73.36 wrote:


      I think the bonemarrow that Clarke injected in herself worked and that now she can metabolize radiation. And at the end of the season, everyone but her will be in the bunker when the radiation-wave comes. And then they will all think that Clarke is dead, but then they will find out that she is still alive. And then BELLARKE will happen!!!

      I hope not... I'm done with people thinking that characters are dead.

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    • 84.30.73.36 wrote:


      I think the bonemarrow that Clarke injected in herself worked and that now she can metabolize radiation. And at the end of the season, everyone but her will be in the bunker when the radiation-wave comes. And then they will all think that Clarke is dead, but then they will find out that she is still alive. And then BELLARKE will happen!!!

      BELLARKE will never, never, ever happen. Clarke's got Nyla, she don't need a pawn like Bellamy.

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    • 96.250.185.108 wrote:
      84.30.73.36 wrote:

      I think the bonemarrow that Clarke injected in herself worked and that now she can metabolize radiation. And at the end of the season, everyone but her will be in the bunker when the radiation-wave comes. And then they will all think that Clarke is dead, but then they will find out that she is still alive. And then BELLARKE will happen!!!

      BELLARKE will never, never, ever happen. Clarke's got Nyla, she don't need a pawn like Bellamy.

      Bellamy and pawn don't really add up :)

      Besides, in my opinion Bellarke would work. It would be less sexual and built more on mutual caring and respect. They'd certainly last longer as a marriage based on observation of their communication. I'm not taking sides, just making an observation :)

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    • Bellarke as it exist now is fine with me. If you want Clarke to have a man in her life romantically, then the logical choice would be Roan. They have been getting a lot of screen time together recently.

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    • 96.250.185.108 wrote:
      Bellarke as it exist now is fine with me. If you want Clarke to have a man in her life romantically, then the logical choice would be Roan. They have been getting a lot of screen time together recently.

      i see it too but i don't ship it, y'know? i think roan could be more of a brother to her. but bellarke, man. as some random tumblr person once said, "you don't have to ship bellarke, but you can't deny that bellamy blake looks at clarke griffin like she is the sun and the moon and the stars combined."

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    • Maxcarstairs wrote:
      96.250.185.108 wrote:
      Bellarke as it exist now is fine with me. If you want Clarke to have a man in her life romantically, then the logical choice would be Roan. They have been getting a lot of screen time together recently.
      i see it too but i don't ship it, y'know? i think roan could be more of a brother to her. but bellarke, man. as some random tumblr person once said, "you don't have to ship bellarke, but you can't deny that bellamy blake looks at clarke griffin like she is the sun and the moon and the stars combined."

      Yes Bellamy loves Clarke, but she doesn't feel that way about him. She sees him more like a best friend. I don't know where the writers are going with Roan and Clarke, but they would make a great power couple.

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