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  • Let's discuss (and celebrate) The 100's 50th episode: The Tinder Box.

    What did you think? Some big moments in this episode. Some "Unity Day's" throwbacks. What do you think? Let's talk about it in the comments below :)

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    • So it ends with Clarke's mom having a seizure and nobody was around.

      Of course Raven is now a genius.

      Can Octavia turn me on any more?

      Also I missed Jasper this episode. He's been such great comedic relief the last couple.

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    • I can't believe Riley got more screentime than Miller but okay.

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    • Yeah I feel like Riley could have been replaced by Jasper (given they altered a few things). Not sure why they introduce new characters when they have existing (fan favourite) characters to work with. But that's one of the few comments I have about the season so far, so....

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    • Was that really Clarke at end where she telling her mom They running out of time?

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    • Was that really Clarke at end where she telling her mom They running out of time?

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    • Anyone died this episode? Unamed Grounder or unamed sky person?

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    • I loved this episode! Though I don't quite understand why they did the whole "Octavia's death" plot line since Bellamy found out she was ok the episode after (and the viewers all knew she was fine anyway.) But, it was super nice at the end to see Bellamy holding his sister and Clarke holding Octavia's hand.

      I also thought the whole burning of the Ark was super symbolic. "From the ashes, we will rise," indeed!

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    • It was a great episode indeed. My favorite moment was Bellamy's speech to convince Riley not to shoot Rolan. It was the proof that Bellamy is still suffering for what he did last season. Moreover, Raven and Abby seem in a serious trouble (again). However, if Raven gets through this stroke, too I won't have anything else to say. She is already incredibly immortal after what she has gone through since the beginning. 

      Also, I still can't understand how explosion in the Arcadia didn't even wound a bit Ilian while octavia and Niylah seem to have barely survived. Besides, seeing arcadia fall reminded me of its structure and how it could have been a shelter to 100 people with its vertical position. I mean, how people went up inside the building. I have never seen an elevator or stairs. The inside always seemed perfectly horizontal in the show.

      Apart from these, it was kinda depressing to see arcadia fall. They only have one chance now to survive the radiation and it's still unknown if they could find the fuel for the rocket now that arcadia has been destroyed. Can't wait for the next week's episode.

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    • I'm shook. Arkadia's destruction giving me GoT destruction of the sept realness

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    • I had something of a rage/breakdown at the sight of Arkadia in flames. Hopefully its still atleast partly suitable for living in.

      As for Raven... like I said in my last post "Raven is Raven", of course she will find a way to save everyone :) ... I just really hope she makes it through the stroke and gets to keep on living, then again, shes made it through everything else so she should be fine :).


      Arkadia shall rise, like a phoenix, from the ashes... a nation renewed.

      I hope.

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    • This episode was amazing to watch last night and to see the whole ambush in the valley was pretty cool. But i did not like how Illian just went up and destroyed Alpha Station just because he hates tech, and caused a game-changing move. Illian really know has truly become a character to hate in this show, because even though nightblood will be the key to surviving but if somehow it doesn't work he pretty much caused the extinction of humanity all because of his misguided pursuit in destroying tech.

      it looks like raven and abby are going to die this season or somehow they find a way to live but not likely.

      -Vader25

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    • 71.81.249.170 wrote: This episode was amazing to watch last night and to see the whole ambush in the valley was pretty cool. But i did not like how Illian just went up and destroyed Alpha Station just because he hates tech, and caused a game-changing move. Illian really know has truly become a character to hate in this show, because even though nightblood will be the key to surviving but if somehow it doesn't work he pretty much caused the extinction of humanity all because of his misguided pursuit in destroying tech.

      it looks like raven and abby are going to die this season or somehow they find a way to live but not likely.

      -Vader25

      Yes. No exagerattion I got angry watching Arkadia burn, and watching Alpha station collapse. My rage at Illian was... unrestrained. I vocally, alone in a room, said outloud "kill him! No, wait, torture him and then kill him!" Watching the symbol of civilization and technological society, within a world of barbarism, go up in flames didnt sit well with me :)

      I really hope Raven is okay... she is too awesome to die. Maybe she can find a way to save herself ;)

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    • Vader25 wrote: ... i did not like how Illian just went up and destroyed Alpha Station just because he hates tech, and caused a game-changing move ... even though nightblood will be the key to surviving but if somehow it doesn't work he pretty much caused the extinction of humanity all because of his misguided pursuit in destroying tech.

      While I don't understand how no one within Alpha Station noticed a Grounder with a cart of explosive liquids walking around, I can see where Ilian is coming from. Technology has as much power to destroy the world & humanity (see ALIE) as it does to save it. Also, we have to remember that Ilian doesn't know that Praimfaya is coming – from his knowledge, the world & humanity would be better off with less technology.

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    • I've got a theory that Emori is going to die and Raven is going to live. All things considered, I can take or leave Raven or Emori (but not both) but I swear to god if Abby or Marcus dies I might punch one of the writers. 

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    • Maxcarstairs wrote:
      I've got a theory that Emori is going to die and Raven is going to live. All things considered, I can take or leave Raven or Emori (but not both) but I swear to god if Abby or Marcus dies I might punch one of the writers. 

      Kane dies and I will join you in the writer punching... maybe lol :)

      At the very least I will annoy them by spamming #notmychancellor on their twitter accounts everytime they try to make someone else chancellor of Arkadia... and nobody wants that ;)

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    • I thought it was a really good episode, I thought the story was really good. I kinda wish Riley was killed, but hopefully he'll die this season. I really missed Jaha this episode I like the role he has this season kinda being Clarke's advisor. I feel his input with the ice nation situation could have been good. I liked lllian's story, because I didn't see his endgame coming. I thought he might set a trap to kill as many skaikru as possible.I do agree it's weird how no one saw him, but it's possible that everyone was busy outside trying to prepare the ship while everyone else was dealing with Roan. The way I see it Lilian wasn't there to destroy tech, I saw it as he blames skaikru for his family dying and this was his way of revenge. I do like the idea of arkadia being destroyed, one because if the show goes on for years then it would be cool to see ruins of the first true skaukru settlement. Second It also puts pressure on Abby to figure out the nightblood cure. Finally when it comes to Abby and Raven I like the idea of them both dying saving everyone. I know I'll get hate for this, don't get me wrong I like them both but I feel it would make for a good story. Also I feel this show could use some more main character deaths.

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    • TotallyTinkerbell wrote:
      Yeah I feel like Riley could have been replaced by Jasper (given they altered a few things). Not sure why they introduce new characters when they have existing (fan favourite) characters to work with. But that's one of the few comments I have about the season so far, so....

      Yea maybe in season 3 but it wouldn't really work with Jaspers personality this season. But yeah I don't think this whole subplot was really neccessary except for Bellamy's character. 

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    • I liked this episode, the show is at it's best when there's a major conflict or a threat of war,. Now that Arcadia is gone, what's  there to fight for ? They are all pretty much in the same" boat". Looking foreward that doesnt sound exciting.  Illlian and Riley should be killed for their actions in this episode, i thought that this is a show where  people  die all the time.

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    • Chancellor1 wrote:
      Maxcarstairs wrote:
      I've got a theory that Emori is going to die and Raven is going to live. All things considered, I can take or leave Raven or Emori (but not both) but I swear to god if Abby or Marcus dies I might punch one of the writers. 
      Kane dies and I will join you in the writer punching... maybe lol :)

      At the very least I will annoy them by spamming #notmychancellor on their twitter accounts everytime they try to make someone else chancellor of Arkadia... and nobody wants that ;)



      now this is the type of political protest i can get behind

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    • Chancellor1 wrote:
      Maxcarstairs wrote:
      I've got a theory that Emori is going to die and Raven is going to live. All things considered, I can take or leave Raven or Emori (but not both) but I swear to god if Abby or Marcus dies I might punch one of the writers. 
      Kane dies and I will join you in the writer punching... maybe lol :)

      At the very least I will annoy them by spamming #notmychancellor on their twitter accounts everytime they try to make someone else chancellor of Arkadia... and nobody wants that ;)

      Omg same

      But I wouldn't worry about Kane dying, Henry Ian Cusick (who plays Kane) basically spoiled that his character will live before season 4 even started by tweeting something regarding "See you guys next season."

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    • Amethystkitten wrote:
      Chancellor1 wrote:
      Maxcarstairs wrote:
      I've got a theory that Emori is going to die and Raven is going to live. All things considered, I can take or leave Raven or Emori (but not both) but I swear to god if Abby or Marcus dies I might punch one of the writers. 
      Kane dies and I will join you in the writer punching... maybe lol :)

      At the very least I will annoy them by spamming #notmychancellor on their twitter accounts everytime they try to make someone else chancellor of Arkadia... and nobody wants that ;)

      Omg same

      But I wouldn't worry about Kane dying, Henry Ian Cusick (who plays Kane) basically spoiled that his character will live before season 4 even started by tweeting something regarding "See you guys next season."

      ugh but what about abby though??? she's the one i'm really worried about

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    • I  understand why Illian did what he did, because what tech did his family by destroying tech and having less of it, but destroying the tech now when  priamfaya is on its way is really bad timing on his part if he wanted less tech then he should have waited until survival is acheived. Alas what's done is done, and now we get to see the actions will produce from here on out, and as for riley he is an interesting character but is a pain getting in the way of what needs to be done in order to survive.

      It seems that with Alpha Statioin gone sky people are now in the same boat as the grounders, and hopefully Abby and co. can finish the nightblood cure in time to save as many people they can. Also it would be interesting to see Ice Nation and Sky people working together, because in the episode the whole 50/50 thing was about only Ice Nation and Sky People not other grounder clans among the 50, because it looks like they were thrown under the bus but with alpha station gone the 50/50 no longer works but just like the list coming out maybe will get to see the same thing happen and maybe see a war with Ice Nation and Sky People vs. 11 grounder clans.

      -Vader25

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    • Oh yeah one thing I'm confused about is that whether or not they really expect us to believe that everyone would just allow Illian to live? I'm sorry but that's ridiculous... and I'm assuming he lives since they didn't choose to kill him off at the end of this episode. But you know what, IIllian might be the guy where Kane in the trailer is like "No one will touch this man" (paraphrasing here). 

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    • Honestly, this is my favortie of S4 so far.

      It had that heavy dose of emotional turmoil with a mix of "no one knows what the hell you're talking about science" with just a dash of excellence strategic leadership moves.


      Like, we all knew The Ark was going to be blown up, but to see it was something else entirely. I'm a bit peeved at Illian for being selfish, but he made it up (just a bit) by saving Octavia and Niylah.

      Also, not to be rude to any riley fans out there, but why is Riley a prominent character when the writers have so many others characters that could play his part efficiently? It makes no sense to me to simply introduced a random character for one storyline. It seems random and sloppy, but I digress. 

      I'm glad that we got to see Bellamy finally being that leader he didn't get to be in S3. His new motto of "No one died today" is pretty awesome too, so I hope and Clarke continue down that path.

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    • Idk if "No one died today" is a very good leadership motto, but I'll take it as long as it is the case. I just don't want any more people dying in Bellamy's watch...

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    • TotallyTinkerbell wrote:
      Idk if "No one died today" is a very good leadership motto, but I'll take it as long as it is the case. I just don't want any more people dying in Bellamy's watch...

      For me, this is a step up from Bellamy going on murder sprees. I'll take what I can get with that guy lol

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    • Charinfox wrote:
      TotallyTinkerbell wrote:
      Idk if "No one died today" is a very good leadership motto, but I'll take it as long as it is the case. I just don't want any more people dying in Bellamy's watch...
      For me, this is a step up from Bellamy going on murder sprees. I'll take what I can get with that guy lol

      He's certainly come a long way from "whatever the he*l we want" ;)

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    • Chancellor1 wrote:
      Charinfox wrote:
      TotallyTinkerbell wrote:
      Idk if "No one died today" is a very good leadership motto, but I'll take it as long as it is the case. I just don't want any more people dying in Bellamy's watch...
      For me, this is a step up from Bellamy going on murder sprees. I'll take what I can get with that guy lol
      He's certainly come a long way from "whatever the he*l we want" ;)

      Definetely. He's becoming more of a leader by the minute.

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    • I'll keep this one brief. 

      - Word of this episode is heart.

      - Dammit Riley

      - Quit hurting Raven

      - Mixed feelings for Roan

      - Echo's stayed true to her character, no complaints

      - Ilian has also stayed true to his "heart" which was basically what I wanted to make the summary out of.

      - Blake sibling reunion :')

      See you next week. 

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    • Dinoking745765 wrote:

      - Quit hurting Raven

      Lol... the day the writers stop mercilessly abusing Raven is the day an elephant flies out of my butt :)

      I'm just hoping they don't kill her... she is Raven, she's to awesome to die! 

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    • This episode kinda seemed like the Matrix.

      Digital codes inside peoples heads that allows them to become genius level. Hell, Raven even flew out of her own body and most interesting still, what she was seeing was what was happening around her.

      Also this is getting kinda tiresome. Every plan Raven comes up with is derailed by someone else. She needed a water purifier... Let's use it as a bomb! She needed the ark supply of rocket fuel to into space and make night blood, and the ark is blow to pieces.

      Might as well call it quits and wait for the end to come.

      Also Roan is starting to really piss me off. So is Clarke. It seems clear beyond a doubt that there's never gonna be piece between them. Even if Raven pulls a hail Mary from her ass, and is able to make Night Blood inside Earth's gravity, I bet there's still gonna be a fight between who gets the doses first.

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    • GOD I CANT BELIEVE WE HAVE TO WAIT AN EXTRA WEEK. 

      you know what's hilarious? someone is going to have to tell abby that arkadia burned down (assuming she's okay. we're going to assume she's fine. she has to be okay. SHE IS OKAY.) and i'm going to take my bets that its going to be kane so he's probably watching the ark burn down thinking "oh holy shit what am going to tell abby now"

      and even if he's not the one to tell her it's gonna be someone else saying "hey so uh arkadia just burst into flames and now its gone" and the first thing she's going to think about is whether kane is alive

      and then clarke

      or maybe clarke first and then kane either way she's going to be worried and my heart can't take this

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    • Question, ALIE said that 96% of the earth will be unihabitable,that leaves 4% of good land, where would that be?

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    • 96.250.182.152 wrote:
      Question, ALIE said that 96% of the earth will be unihabitable,that leaves 4% of good land, where would that be?

      I don't know for certain, though I would assume the least developed regions of the world might fare better (as the cause of radiation is power plants). Places with no nuclear power consuming nations in the vacinity are probably the best bet. So... probably not North America :) (maybe far north arctic Canada).

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    • What did they leave behind in space ? With the discovery of a new rocket, you now have a way of getting into space, so why not bring down some pieces of the space station to live in if the nightblood solution doesn't pan out.

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    • 68.132.187.232 wrote:
      What did they leave behind in space ? With the discovery of a new rocket, you now have a way of getting into space, so why not bring down some pieces of the space station to live in if the nightblood solution doesn't pan out.

      All that is left in space (as far as the Ark is concerned) is Earth Monitoring Station, which Jaha left at the beginning of season 2. I'm not sure what kind of resources it has left on board, or how much of those resources the rocket could bring back down. All I know about what is still up there is that the Arks computer systems are there (assuming they can still power on), there is enough life support to last one person a week or two, and there may still be nuclear missiles on board. I'm not sure if there is any way to safely de-orbit Earth Monitoring, and bring it to Earth in such a way that it would still be livable on the ground. 

      It is looking like nightblood is the only solution that will certainly work at the moment... of course with Illian blowing up all the fuel on Alpha station (which Raven needed for the rocket), I'm not sure how she will get to space... but she's Raven, she'll think of something :)

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    • FYI just because they have rocket, doesn't mean they can lasso in whatever there is in space and bring it back to earth with a Yee-Haw!

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    • If there are nuclear weapons in space, that could be a solution to the burning reactors. A direct hit on the reactors would put the fires out. As for rocket fuel,why not make your own. Where did Illian get his liquid fuel to burn the ark ? Was it kerosene,which can be used to make rocket fuel. All you need now is liquid oxygen = water + eletricity + a bit of tek (Raven) ,and youre in space. LOL

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    • Wri-El wrote: She needed the ark supply of rocket fuel to into space and make night blood, and the ark is blow to pieces.
      Chancellor1 wrote: ... of course with Illian blowing up all the fuel on Alpha station (which Raven needed for the rocket), I'm not sure how she will get to space...

      Ilian did not blow up the fuel, so it's still going to Raven. From this episode we learned that they buried the hydrazine outside of Arkadia (see the guard's map). Also, as we learned in the first season, hydrazine is extremely powerful. If Ilian managed to blow up the barrels of hydrazine that Arkadia had buried, then no one in Arkadia would have survived. Also, if you watched the promo for the next episode (and if you haven't, stop reading now), we know that they have ten barrels of hydrazine which they are transporting to Raven.

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    • If there are nuclear weapons in space, that could be a solution to the burning reactors. A direct hit on the reactors would put the fires out.

      I am not up to date on whats going on, but nukes to put out fires doesn't sound right.. you can use explosives to put out fires, and I heard the USSR used a nuke as crude method to put out an oil well, however, a melting nuclear reactors is nothing a like and nuking a reaction will only further breach containment and spread radioactive material...

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    • Bugthe wrote:
      If there are nuclear weapons in space, that could be a solution to the burning reactors. A direct hit on the reactors would put the fires out.

      I am not up to date on whats going on, but nukes to put out fires doesn't sound right.. you can use explosives to put out fires, and I heard the USSR used a nuke as crude method to put out an oil well, however, a melting nuclear reactors is nothing a like and nuking a reaction will only further breach containment and spread radioactive material...

      This is how it's going to work. The reactors are burning and pumping radiation into the atmosphere bcause their fuel is hot and is contained in one location. A blast would disperse the fuel and put the fire out, this would radiate the area around the reactor. Since most of the burning reactors are in europa and asia, it would not be a big problem for north america.

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    • IP wrote: Since most of the burning reactors are in europa and asia, it would not be a big problem for north america.

      Did the 100+ nuclear reactors in North America magically disappeared?

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    • Did the 100+ nuclear reactors in North America magically disappeared?

      Someone on reddit mention that the show reactors are some sort of supper next gen reactors that suppose to be able operate for 100 years independently. (and then in stead of shutting down they all go boom at the same time ..)

      Although I don't know if that is true and where these super reactors will be located, only that ALIE calculated that they would pose a danger to our friends.

      This is how it's going to work. The reactors are burning and pumping radiation into the atmosphere bcause their fuel is hot and is contained in one location. A blast would disperse the fuel and put the fire out, this would radiate the area around the reactor. Since most of the burning reactors are in europa and asia, it would not be a big problem for north america.

      Reactors use nuclear "fuel" to sustained nuclear chain reaction, to protect the environment they are encased in containment structures, shit happen when for whatever reason containment fail. For example in Fukashima coolant system failed, thus the reactor overheated and underwent a meltdown..

      The only scenarios in which fire involved is if

      1. fire breaks outside and threatens containment, and helping crack pandora box doesn't seem like a good idea.
      2. if containment is already breached and nuclear material burn spreading radiation upward... I don't know what will happen. But A nuke is certain to breach all containment (of the reactor and any stored fuel on site), it might put off a fire ( and might start few others) but might cause more harm by vaporizing and uplifting a whole lot of radioactive material into the atmosphere with mushroom cloud.

      Anyway I don't know what will happen, but nuke shit up is rarely the solution ;) and weather system to spread radiation far and wide e.g. Fukashima radiation reached USA coast and Chernobil reached the whole of europe.. and those suppose to be super reactors..

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    • In episode 3.16 ,ALIE said that there are over a dozen at risk reactors , with 7 of then already burning,so we are not talking  about a huge number. When ALIE  showed Clarke the burning reactors fron space, they were all oversease, not North America, where the clans are. So it makes sense to bomb the 7 damaged  burning reactor to put the fires out. This will make those areas uninhabitable and yes,  radiation will reach  north america  but not leathal doses.

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