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    • I thought it was a great opening episode. I liked how they mentioned a few deceased characters (Pike, ALIE, Lexa, Ontari, etc...) I really liked echo's part in this episode, im starting to really enjoy her as a character. Im trying to figure out who was that ambassador, that echo killed. It was really cool to see some backstory to Azgeda and King Roan (His grandfather Theo).Its odd how we saw Kenza in the crowd, she said a few words, but other than that, that was it. 

      It was very interesting how they put that ending sequence in, I'm kind of hoping at the end of every episode they put in one of those sequences to show how its coming. Like this episode was Egypt, next episode could be Italy, and then Germany, and then France, and then the UK, and it shows that its getting closer and closer to our heroes. 

      The trailer for "Heavy Lies the Crown" looks awesome as well. 

      Overally I think this season is going to be amazing, I'm thinking season 1 or 2 good.

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    • Yes, I liked the little callbacks too. Was afraid that the mentions of last season would be too cringe-worthy, but they weren't. Bellamy's involvement in the massacre, Octavia killing Pike, Lexa's coalition, Ontari's death, the ending of the City of Light and even Jasper's suicide attempt. It was all handled very well. It was a soft pick-up from S3, whereas last season was anything but soft. Last season was a harsh drop into a new foreign world, this felt more at ease. All the familiar characters were there, and stuff.

      I had actually expected Octavia to run off right away, but she stuck around to help with the aftermath. I wasn't expecting this much of Echo either, but she definetly makes it interesting. I also didn't expect the Jaha/Murphy dynamic to return but I loved seeing that. 

      As far as the ending sequence, idk if I need to see that every week. + It's not like the radiation is going to come from Europe solely. There's powerplants much closer that they need to be worrying about. But I did like how they did the egypt thing. It's almost as if they were dividing the world map into a grid and then crossing out Egypt like okay, one area already gone guys. T-6months....

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    • I'm pretty sure that was Gaya, not Kenza. Notice Indra gave her the side eye. That's her daughter.

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    • Wait what?? Is the proof to confirm that Gaya is Indra's daughter

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    • I won't lie I was very disappointed. I knew I would be a little but it was so painful to carry on with this story like this, I was hoping it would be managable but I just hated it. I guess when your favorite characters are gone and the plot has gone wild, there is just no turning back. They may have lost a viewer at this stage, not sure if I can put myself through this. The true ending should have been season 3, this just feels like a spoiled show. Time will tell if the show can survive. But with the characters that remain and the ratings it seems uncertain sadly.

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    • Felt a bit uneventful and over the place tbh

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    • I know they're both new characters but who specifically is Gaya and who is Kenza

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    • Eh. Too slow. Filler. Maybe it's better they started off slow, only time will tell. One can only hope, however, that this whole season is not this slow.

      Next episode looks great, though, so I'll give it 3-4 episodes before I make a judgement on the season.

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    • Considering the fact that Jason has practically told us where the direction of this show is going, I can predict that he has royally screwed up and that it is permanently done for. I feel like the damage done to the show was self-inflicted by Jason's stubborness alone. Honestly I don't know about you but I am going friggin nuts!! How can a producer so carelessly throw away all the potential and goodness of his show. It should have continued for far longer but we all know it won't now because it is ruined and it's reputation is in the drain. I don't want to watch him introduce new characters only to watch them die again. And the discrimination is unreal, the grounders actually represent a lot of ethnic groups in the real world and just like the real world, Jason feels the need to oppress them. I am on my final straw. I do NOT trust this show anymore, I will not let myself go through the same crap again. For that reason I probably won't be watching his new show Searchers either. If they refuse to try and undo the mistakes that have kicked a hole in the shows ratings, it will be cancelled and that is very disappointing considering as I say, it could have been create. But Jason needs to learn his lesson.

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    • I loved the episode! The pacing was excellent, it was filled with parallels to previous episodes and little callbacks you could miss if you weren't paying attention. I felt the pacing was just so so much better than that of the season 3 premiere which was great! Very excited for what this season has in store of us. 

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    • Jessica Williams (Kenza) was never credited, but Tati Gabrielle was. I'm fairly certain she played the Grounder that called out Roan from the crowd. As far as who she is (and if the character's name is Gaya or something else), I haven't seen any official information. Unofficially, Grounders Source says the character is named Gaya & she's Indra's daughter. On the other hand, IMDb is saying Tati Gabrielle played Kenza, but IMDb regularly gets these types of things wrong too. Twitter skikru has also previously listed her as playing Kenza. I think we'll have to wait for future episodes to find out for sure who she is.

      @Panorama500: I believe the ambassador killed was played by Diana Pavlovská. End credits list her portraying "Rock Line Ambassador".

      As for the final scene: Since there was a pyramid, I assume it's Egypt, which means there were Grounders in Egypt. This means Becca's anti-radiation cure wasn't the only cure created or Becca's injection wasn't an anti-radiation cure (and she was just magically immune to radiation) or in 95 years Grounders have spread all the way from Eastern US to Egypt with limited technology. I'm not sure which of these theories is more far-fetched.

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    • Janus100 wrote:
      Jessica Williams (Kenza) was never credited, but Tati Gabrielle was. I'm fairly certain she played the Grounder that called out Roan from the crowd. As far as who she is (and if the character's name is Gaya or something else), I haven't seen any official information. Unofficially, Grounders Source says the character is named Gaya & she's Indra's daughter. On the other hand, IMDb is saying Tati Gabrielle played Kenza, but IMDb regularly gets these types of things wrong too. Twitter skikru has also previously listed her as playing Kenza. I think we'll have to wait for future episodes to find out for sure who she is.

      @Panorama500: I believe the ambassador killed was played by Diana Pavlovská. End credits list her portraying "Rock Line Ambassador".

      As for the final scene: Since there was a pyramid, I assume it's Egypt, which means there were Grounders in Egypt. This means Becca's anti-radiation cure wasn't the only cure created or Becca's injection wasn't an anti-radiation cure (and she was just magically immune to radiation) or in 95 years Grounders have spread all the way from Eastern US to Egypt with limited technology. I'm not sure which of these theories is more far-fetched.

      It is far fetched and I hated that at first but now I embrace it because you never know, in the future if this show finds in needs a ratings boost pronto, it might ressurrect 'a certain someone' who could be the key to unlocking everything. Well she probably still is the key and I feel, has unfinished business. Any freaky grounders with supernatural connections to the dead would be very welcome at this stage.

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    • Why wouldn't there be grounders in Egypt? People survived the original apocalypse in Northern America, so people could have survived in the middle east as well. They wouldn't have to have travelled that far if they were already there.

      Sure, they would fall outside of the grounder world Jason has introduced thus far (the 12/13 clans) but considering the story that's been told, it only makes sense that we only know of the civilization on the American continent. 

      But I don't even think the final scene was meant to go that deep. I think they wanted to take a world map and start putting red x's and they did a big one on Egypt now, so there's that. I think it's mostly to indicate like "okay guys, this threat is real, we already have a casualty of the next apocalypse... let's get a move on."

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    • Why wouldn't there be grounders in Egypt? People survived the original apocalypse in Northern America, so people could have survived in the middle east as well.

      It depends which theory you subscribe to. One theory is that Becca created the anti-radiation cure, thus why she was able to breath freely on Earth while the other survivors had hazmat suits. Per that theory, she spread her cure and all Grounders descent from that group. All other survivors on Earth are people like the Mountain Men who live in bunkers and die quickly on the surface.

      Other theories include: 2) Other groups created their own cure, e.g. Mountain Men found out they can be cured by taking Sky People's bone marrow. 3) Survival of the fittest – majority of humans died out, but those who survived were born with more radiation immunity than those who didn't. Becca's injection wasn't an anti-radiation cure, it just gave people compatibility with A.L.I.E. 2.0. Becca was just lucky she had natural radiation resistance when she took off her helmet when she landed on Earth.

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    • Janus100 wrote:

      As for the final scene: Since there was a pyramid, I assume it's Egypt, which means there were Grounders in Egypt. This means Becca's anti-radiation cure wasn't the only cure created or Becca's injection wasn't an anti-radiation cure (and she was just magically immune to radiation) or in 95 years Grounders have spread all the way from Eastern US to Egypt with limited technology. I'm not sure which of these theories is more far-fetched.

      It was definitely Egypt, as someone was credited as "Egyptian Grounder" at the end of the show.  As for Becca's injection, I don't think we are supposed to believe that only those exposed to her injections survived, otherwise everyone would be a Nightblood (those decended from the people who did get hte injections).  There is a survival of the fittest thing going on here (as President Wallace said) that some were just immune and survived.

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    • 108.245.73.253 wrote: It was definitely Egypt, as someone was credited as "Egyptian Grounder" at the end of the show.
      Yep, I forgot that, Zara Durrani was credited as "Egyptian Scavenger".
      As for Becca's injection, I don't think we are supposed to believe that only those exposed to her injections survived, otherwise everyone would be a Nightblood...
      It's convoluted. We're made to think the injection did something, otherwise how did Becca take off her helmet while everyone else has to wear hazmat suits?

      Also, if Nightbloods only decent from Nightbloods, that would mean Nightblood children couldn't be born at random, they would need a Nightblood parent. And since all except one Nightblood dies in the Conclave, that would mean a parent-child linage of Commanders. But that doesn't seem to be the case...

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    • Janus100 wrote:
      108.245.73.253 wrote: It was definitely Egypt, as someone was credited as "Egyptian Grounder" at the end of the show.
      Yep, I forgot that, Zara Durrani was credited as "Egyptian Scavenger".
      As for Becca's injection, I don't think we are supposed to believe that only those exposed to her injections survived, otherwise everyone would be a Nightblood...
      It's convoluted. We're made to think the injection did something, otherwise how did Becca take off her helmet while everyone else has to wear hazmat suits?

      Also, if Nightbloods only decent from Nightbloods, that would mean Nightblood children couldn't be born at random, they would need a Nightblood parent. And since all except one Nightblood dies in the Conclave, that would mean a parent-child linage of Commanders. But that doesn't seem to be the case...

      All good points.  It is a bit convoluted, but they did say that the Nightblood was heretitary.  How that works is a bit of a mystery...

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    • I think this season premiere was more like closing season 3. It was about the aftermath of destroying the City of Light. Certain things had to be done and said. The damage done in Polis, the awakening of all of the people. The "thank you"s and "forgive you"s, spoken or not. It felt a bit like an atonement for season 3 and doing what had to be done to leave it behind and go on with this season, fresh and different. As such I can say I truly enjoyed seeing my favorite characters again and getting to know Echo, who's definitely something. I think the episode next Wednesday is gonna be an actual premiere for me.

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    • I loved it. I loved the dynamic between Bellamy and Echo. I loved how his guilt is coming in to play, and he is being tested in having to deal with Echo. The call back in how he first met Roan, and Roan threw him on his back and used his own knife against him is exactly the way Echo did. Bellamy is struggling with his past actions and was brought into the forefront when he was forced  to deal with Echo, whom he probably hates.  Also the moment at the end with Kane telling him to turn the page and do better.  I loved Murphy finally being asked to take up arms and join them (although he took off when he saw the odds).

      The Jasper scenes were done really well. The eerie attempt to take his life, and his haunting oboe music bringing back to feel of last season, then his laugh at the knowlege the world is ending. 

      The tender moment between Abby and Kane that was witnessed by Clarke, with a subtle look of approval, and finally the confession to her mom, in how she loved Lexa. Abby comforting her without question while Bellamy looked on helplessly. 

      I loved Echo although I hate Echo. Tasya Teles did a great job bringing us a new but not new character that looks to be a vicious character this season. The Ice Nation Royal Guard looks to be an adversary that our delinquents will face again and I cant wait for it ! 

      The opening to each season is usually a soft " We are here" episode. This gave us alot to take in and prepare for a crazy season.

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    • I'm excited to see where this season will take each character and how they will survive the "end of the world". 

      The Bellarke moments gave me life as did those solid deliquent moments. I'm a little disapointed that Murphy and Emori chose to leave, but at the end of the day; I understand it.

      I hate Echo, but I think I MIGHT grow to like her. That's only if my suspcions about her stabbing Roan in the back aren't confirmed because Roan is too awesome to die. Like, the writers can't move him into lead character terrority, have him make that awesome speech, then be like "Nah, we'll kill him" right? I hope not!

      That Blake family moment with Kane made me feel some type of way too. It's always good to see those moments I think because Kane really is the father the Blakes never got to have. It will be interesting if Octavia will listen to Kane in the future as Skai Rippa.

      I'm still not sure how I feel about Harper and Monty, but if they're happy; I'm cool.

      WHY DO THEY KEEP MESSING WITH RAVEN AND JASPER? HAVEN'T THEY GONE THROUGH ENOUGH? 

      When I saw Jasper with the gun in his room, I'm not even joking; I jumped up and screamed at the screen. I think it's important to have that kind of story line, but as someone who lives around depression; my heart broke watching him. Then Raven came onto the damn screen and she didn't even smile guys. She was business and I'm afraid that A.L.I.E made her more computer than person. 


      I'm excited to see where this season takes us!

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    • Question about next week's promo: Were the slaves from IN? The gang was going into IN territory and I thought I saw an IN warrior walking around with them but I couldn't tell.

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    • The warriors are Ice Nation, but I have no idea about the slaves, I really hope there Skaikru tbh. That would be cool dynamic.

      Also I really like Echo, and Im not known to ship people, but Im really shipping Bellamy and Echo

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    • Also, i thought it was very odd at the end of the episode how Echo said "Do you think we will ever be able to trust eachother again". Why would a Ice Nation warrior want trust with a people as hated as Skaikru. It just doesn't make sense. 

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    • Panorama500 wrote:
      Also, i thought it was very odd at the end of the episode how Echo said "Do you think we will ever be able to trust eachother again". Why would a Ice Nation warrior want trust with a people as hated as Skaikru. It just doesn't make sense. 

      I think it was in reference to Bellamy trusting Echo when she lied to him in "Ye Who Enter Here" about the summit is Polis being the place of the attack rather than Mount Weather. Or she could even be possibly referring to the alliance between the Grounders and Skaikru in season 2. Either way, there have been many situations where the Sky People have put trust in the grounders and it has gone pretty horribly to say the least.

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    • Amethystkitten wrote:

      Panorama500 wrote:
      Also, i thought it was very odd at the end of the episode how Echo said "Do you think we will ever be able to trust eachother again". Why would a Ice Nation warrior want trust with a people as hated as Skaikru. It just doesn't make sense. 

      I think it was in reference to Bellamy trusting Echo when she lied to him in "Ye Who Enter Here" about the summit is Polis being the place of the attack rather than Mount Weather. Or she could even be possibly referring to the alliance between the Grounders and Skaikru in season 2. Either way, there have been many situations where the Sky People have put trust in the grounders and it has gone pretty horribly to say the least.

      Why should the grounders trust the Skaikru after what Bellamy did? I feel like this show is really unfair towards the grounders and out of respect for the grounder community who keep getting killed off, I hope there is a turn around and that they win, that Clarke sides with the grounders, that the 'adventure squad' crumbles and that people like Bellamy who hate them disintegrate into dust in the end. This show was better when it had a large grounder presence. Long live Heda.

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    • Ok for starters, I really HATE Echo. She is a vicious character and I honestly don't like her. Don't think I ever will. The way she just showed up and violated the whole "celebration" thing going on was just completely unexpected and undeserved. I feel like there was no brief solution because straight away we were embraced with so many different problems. It was too much to handle. I was really happy when Roan was still alive. I kinda knew he would be the one to save them, so when he woke up I was relieved straight away. 

      To be honest, I don't think I'll ever ship Monty and Harper. I just don't like it. It just seems like they're forcing a romantic scene to happen to ease the situation there, but It just isn't as good as it's supposed to me. But of course, if they're both happy then so be it. 

      I live for Bellarke moments tho. And Kane and Abby just look genuinely nice together. I just love Kane's character, he's developed a lot throughout this series.

      And I loved the way we still have the old Murphy showing up now and then. He' always about saving his own skin and he never misses a chance to do it. I hope we do see our trash king soon. 

      The Jasper scenes are getting too annoying if I'm being honest. Hasn't he been through enough already? Like just make him happy already. He needs to let it go and move on. It's getting too repetitive. But that's just my opinion anyway. 

      But I feel like this episode wasn't really a premier to me. It was more like a closure of season 3 and a chance to introduce new recurring characters this season and also to sum up everything so that everyone is on the same page. The transition was better than season 3. At least this time it was more smoother. 

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    • I felt as if this episode was trying to bring people back into the swing of what the 100 was. Skaikru vs Grounders. At first I hated Echo, but after watching it again, I started to like her as a character, sticking to her morals rather than just making her a 1-dimensional character that saved Bellamy...

      Raven's hurt again... which kind of made me said, but I'm glad they acknowledged that she has gone through the most out of anyone. And she's got her "superpower" which is awesome! But it pains me to see her this way.

      This was definetely a Bellarke episode, so much evidence for that. I'm glad that they are technically back in charge of Skaikru, I feel as if that is the way it should be because the adults are still more hopeful than the original 100. 

      Octavia is a badass. Just leaving it at that.

      Of course we still have somewhat of the old Murphy, saving his own skin. Alright, I'm down. Murphy's still my favorite character, and I'm curious as to how his story arc is going to play out. Back with Emori, of course, I'm cool with that, those are two characters that do belong together.

      King Roan! I do like his character as well. It's going to be interesting to see the "Reapercussions" (see what I did there) of him not killing Wanheda and honoring Lexa's coalition. 

      Now to the downsides:

      Monty and Harper seem a bit forced, and they are really trying to force it upon the audience. I find it stupid, especially since we know that Harper is easy. 

      Jasper is still suicidal after all of that. When he put the gun up to his head I was actually saying "please don't". But we really don't need to have that all season...

      sigh* Alright. I'll say it. Kill Jaha already. It's why I want him dead in the Heal/Hit game as well, everyone just hates him at this point. He was the reason that the city of light was able to expand ergo he is the reason that Azgeda is in the walls of Polis, and the reason for the hate towards Skaikru.

      There's my Summary/Rant. See you guys next week.

      Master of Angels out.

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    • TotallyTinkerbell wrote:
      Post your thoughts on the S4 premiere below!


      I feel that this episode was an introduction to Echo .She a strong and powerful character, I cant't wait to see how her story plays out. I would love for her to be the next "lexa".

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    • 96.250.182.152 wrote:
      TotallyTinkerbell wrote:
      Post your thoughts on the S4 premiere below!

      I feel that this episode was an introduction to Echo .She a strong and powerful character, I cant't wait to see how her story plays out. I would love for her to be the next "lexa".

      Sadly, I don't think we'll ever get a character quite like Lexa, but I do wanna see more of Echo.

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    • 96.250.182.152 wrote:

      TotallyTinkerbell wrote:
      Post your thoughts on the S4 premiere below!


      I feel that this episode was an introduction to Echo .She a strong and powerful character, I cant't wait to see how her story plays out. I would love for her to be the next "lexa".

      Lexa can NEVER be replaced by ANYONE. But for you to try and compare her to Echo of all people is such an insult. Echo is horrible, the only grounder characters they actually let live on this show are evil ones. It is really mean to compare Lexato her! And Lexa was a lesbian who respresented a whole community. She and Clarke had a beautiful relationship which the show strangled to death. She deserves more respect than that because we all know that she was unique, original and irreplaceable. We will never see another character like her ever again. And if they do replace her in any form that is it, I will actually switch it off.

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    • 178.167.254.133 wrote:

      96.250.182.152 wrote:

      TotallyTinkerbell wrote:
      Post your thoughts on the S4 premiere below!

      I feel that this episode was an introduction to Echo .She a strong and powerful character, I cant't wait to see how her story plays out. I would love for her to be the next "lexa".
      Lexa can NEVER be replaced by ANYONE. But for you to try and compare her to Echo of all people is such an insult. Echo is horrible, the only grounder characters they actually let live on this show are evil ones. It is really mean to compare Lexato her! And Lexa was a lesbian who respresented a whole community. She and Clarke had a beautiful relationship which the show strangled to death. She deserves more respect than that because we all know that she was unique, original and irreplaceable. We will never see another character like her ever again. And if they do replace her in any form that is it, I will actually switch it off.

      calm down mate, They just meant that they want Echo to become a relvant, strong female grounder

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    • Edzz wrote:
      178.167.254.133 wrote:

      96.250.182.152 wrote:


      TotallyTinkerbell wrote:
      Post your thoughts on the S4 premiere below!

      I feel that this episode was an introduction to Echo .She a strong and powerful character, I cant't wait to see how her story plays out. I would love for her to be the next "lexa".
      Lexa can NEVER be replaced by ANYONE. But for you to try and compare her to Echo of all people is such an insult. Echo is horrible, the only grounder characters they actually let live on this show are evil ones. It is really mean to compare Lexato her! And Lexa was a lesbian who respresented a whole community. She and Clarke had a beautiful relationship which the show strangled to death. She deserves more respect than that because we all know that she was unique, original and irreplaceable. We will never see another character like her ever again. And if they do replace her in any form that is it, I will actually switch it off.
      calm down mate, They just meant that they want Echo to become a relvant, strong female grounder

      How do you know that's what they meant? I am actually in agreement, nobody can replace Lexa and it would be better that they didn't try.

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