The company decided a bit ago to move back to calling sites "wikis" rather than "wikias" and I've been tasked with some of the rebranding. I saw that the wordmark says Wikia, as well as a couple of instances on the main page. Wanted to swing by and ask if I could tweak those things :)
On one of the discussion boards someone keeps commenting the same thing and leaving spam comments. I just want to know if there is anything you can do about spam comments because they are taking up space on the discussion board and kind of annoying. I don't want to start or have an issue with anyone and everyone should be allowed to comment as they please as long as it's not hostile. However like I said these spam comments are taking up space on the board and kind of annoying.
Obviously I'm not Taya, but here's my 2 cents. I doubt it's a single user, more like it's an off-wiki organized campaign. It's happened multiple times before. Thread:62783 was another campaign where many IPs came from off-wiki to leave comments.
The past several times it has happened, it was due to the same reason: because of the negativity on this wiki. This is a fansite and some fans get annoyed by all the negativity here. Wikia advertised itself as "The Home of Fandom" before it changed it's name to Fandom.
A fansite is not the best place to constantly make critical remarks about the show. There at least a couple users whose primary role on this wiki is telling that other shows are better and this show isn't good. Or users who come just to say that they quit this show years ago. Then there are those who go to a pairing's article to make negative comments there, just to upset that pairings' fans.
For example, recently a fan commented "One of the best shows…" Next reply: "…I strongly disagree". Yeah it's all opinions, but was it really necessary to bring the newcomer down? Especially when the established user has already made their opinion of the show clear across many threads.
I'm not here to silence anyone (nor do I have the power to do so), but in my opinion constantly criticizing a show on a fansite dedicated to the show is troll-like behavior. Apologies to any users who feel 'attacked'. This is just my opinion, I'm not minimodding anyone. I can understand why fans who do love this show are upset with the environment on this wiki.
Since all the 'spam' has been contained to a single thread, personally I don't mind it. It's nice having the wiki be full of comments from people who love the show.
I agree that everyone should be allowed to comment as they wish. As for negative comments people should be allowed to express their opinions as long as it's not crazy and people aren't cursing each other out. I respect everyone's opinions and one thing that I like to do is encourage a friendly debate when I don't agree with someone so I can try and understand their opinion.
As for criticism I believe it's our responsibility as fans to criticize the show when it's bad. When all fans do is kiss the producers ass it doesn't help the show when it's bad. I feel like no matter where I look nobody wants to criticize the show whether it's here social media or YouTube.
When I criticize the show it's my opinion and I hope people can respect my opinion even if they don't agree with me because I respect everyone else's opinions.
People can respect that someone has an opinion, but they don't have to respect the opinion. E.g. "All the actors on this show are horrible…". Was there any reason to tell a new contributor "…I strongly disagree" when they said "One of the best shows…" They weren't commenting on an existing thread nor asking for a "friendly debate", yet you intentionally decided to create conflict.
The problem isn't with stating an opinion once, its the continued negativity towards the show, cast, crew, characters, etc. Similar to spoiler-armageddon, you aren't willing to let things go. In your opinion, the rest of us are "kiss[ing] the producers ass". In your opinion, the show is "bad". You could go to social media, reddit, your own website, etc. to criticize the show – but a fansite dedicated for the show is basically the worse place for your anti-"kiss[ing] the producers ass". What you call "friendly debate" many fans call "negative environment" and "conflict", and you drive them away with your persistent negative commentary.
While I respect your right to have opinions, I don't have to respect the opinions you state nor do I have to believe that this fansite is the appropriate place for those opinions. In my opinion, such behavior on a fansite is troll-like, but again that's my opinion.
Look I admit I have been extreme at certain points and I have accepted the fact that spoiler boards are here today I have moved on.
I admit that it was wrong to comment under a new members comment. On the other hand when I commented that certain actors were terrible it was in response to a comment that another user said when discussing why we didn't like Clarke.
I've been on many different fandom sites and have witnessed people being critical of whatever fandom the page relates to. You may see it as trolling but these are my opinions and I should be allowed to express my opinions as a fan of the show.
Finally Janus I kindly ask that you and me no longer talk because the way you comment never make me feel comfortable and welcoming. You telling me I shouldn't be critical is pretty much like the pot calling the kettle cause all your comments come off as critical, judgmental and like your smarter or better than everyone else and I think we should no longer talk and if I have any more issues i will talk to Taya cause I don't feel comfortable talking with you. I just want this to be civil and talking with you doesn't always allow that due to the way your comments come off to me.
JCB95, feel free not to read anything I write, I don't force you. However, don't be surprised if I challenge you when you're trying to silence a group of fans, which is how this discussion began.
"[T]he way you comment never make me feel comfortable and welcoming" either. You've stated people like me are "kiss[ing] the producers ass", "not true fans", etc. You've called me an idiot, dumb, and claimed that I've cheated. Believe me, you don't make me feel welcomed or comfortable on this wiki at all. The worse I've stated regarding your actions: "the behavior of beating a dead horse is childish" and "constantly criticizing a show on a fansite dedicated to the show is troll-like behavior" "in my opinion". For someone who claims to want civility, you've done a poor job of demonstrating it.
I stand by my opinion that a fansite should be a positive environment for fans. I also stand by the opinion that you have been the leading voice for the negative comments regarding the show, cast, crew, characters, etc (and I've never claimed you're the only one) over the last few months. Furthermore, I stand by opinion that the fans coming here to expressive their love for the show, for Bellarke, for Clexa, etc, should be allowed to come without silencing their comments as "spam". If fans have to go through your daily 'constructive' criticism for the show, then a couple days of mass pro-show messages won't hurt you.
First of all, I think I missed on the part where you linked to the thread where this spam is taking place. Unless you do so, I can't access it.
Secondly, this wikia has always had a problem with negativity. My adminship and my general place in this community, this fandom, was put on the line because I was accused to censoring. Because of that, I'm still a little cautious when it comes to this matter within our fandom. The strong negativity we experienced as a backlash to S3 has calmed down a bit, but it's still very much there and I know for a fact that there are people out there who would love nothing more than to see me mess up again.
So please, if you have anything to report do so by giving me a link so I can investigate. Due to personal reasons I can only be on this wikia a limited amount of time until the show actually airs. But I'm still the wikia admin, I'm still dedicated to make this a safe place for everyone to voice their opinions but I also want this to be a place of good vibes and positivity. So let me know what I can do to further that, and I will.
I'm not too confident in renaming categories. I think that might create a mess with redirects and stuff. I don't have experience with it as far as I recall.
That said, you could do it the simple way which is taking out the category from existing pages, putting in the new category and then as far as the category page you could do a copy-paste over to a new page.
We could do this, but then we'd need community census so I suggest you take the idea to the suggestions forum
If this move gets approval, I can easily implement it using the CategoryRenameAuto-update tool. The only cleanup would be an admin deleting the old category (which would be empty after the tool finishes processing). I've done this on other wikis and the process is quite simple.
Hi Taya, Thread:77876 has now been open for over a week and there hasn't been any new input for days. Majority agree to rename "Category:Technology" to "Category:Science and Technology" and to rename "Category:The 100" (which is the primary category for TV series articles) to "Category:TV series". With your permission, I can run CategoryRenameAuto-update tool to implement the consensus. Thanks.
An editor named, "YourstrulyWEABOO", is messing up the pages, including the "Echo" page, which he or she deleted every information in the "Echo" page. I want you to block YourstrulyWEABOO and prevent that editor from messing up other pages.
There's been several derogatory comments in the last week. E.g. this comment using "faggot" (IP's other comments were using "fuck": 1 & 2). Another IP used "fuck" & "gay" as derogatory in an unrelated thread. BTW, both IPs currently have multi-year blocks on Wikipedia. Then there's User:Crushingfang, whose main contribution to this wiki seems to be saying that s/he hates non-straight people, that homosexuality is a disease, and equating homosexuality to bestiality: thread here. I believe all these comments break the user guidelines of this wiki as well as create a hostile environment for LGBT+ users.
Is There need page for Kane and Jaha? Did that page were existed then deleted long time ago? I think it should have page because there lot of scenes between those two since Pilot episode.
Just asking, thanks.
Right now the wikia has a lot of relationship pages already. Since some of them could really use some editing, we should probably focus on those first before we start adding more relationship pages into the mix.
Perhaps once we have some more content on the other pages, and if their friendship continues to be of importance on the show, we can give them a page.
Hey TotallyTinkerbell! I'm Jamie from FANDOM's Community Development team! I'm not sure if we ever asked you guys if you are interested in turning on the Discussions feature for The 100 community and migrating the Threaded Forums across as well.
In case you are unaware of the feature (which you probably are, but here's here's the spiel just in case), Discussions was introduced last year to help communities engage with users and fans. It lives in its own space on the wiki and allows users to interact with other members of the community. It is also mobile friendly and gives mobile users a chance to contribute and engage with the community, and possibly turn them into wiki editors as well. Discussions also links with our FANDOM Apps, which this community has and it allows app users to easily take part in Discussions as well. You can read more about Discussions here.
For more information on migrating forums to Discussions, you can check out this blog over on Community Central that explains everything in detail.
If you have some concerns, Discussions, and Forums can exist side-by-side in case you do not want to migrate just yet. However, eventually all Forums will be migrated over to Discussions and Forums will be sunsetted as a feature, so getting ahead of the curve is never a bad idea.
Feel free to have an open discussion with your community/admins about this, and I'm available with any questions you might have. Have a good one!
Hi Jamie, I'm not Taya but I had a question about Discussions. A lot of forum posts use features that aren't in discussions, e.g. they include wikilinks, tables, templates, polls, etc. How are those posts going to be migrated? Will the the tables/templates still be viewable in discussions or are those posts going to be broken once migrated?
Personally I prefer Forums. As I wrote in previous thread, Discussions lack many of Forums features. It is poorly integrated into wikis, e.g. you can't wikilink, use templates, polls, etc. It's harder to track discussions since they don't appear on Special:RecentChanges. Discussions hide older replies, making it difficult to read thread from start. Etc. But they're the "future"...
All of those concerns are totally understandable in that discussions do not at this point support many of those aspects you've listed. So if you wanted to keep forums, for now, that would be completely ok with us. Would you be ok with turning on discussions and having the two tools live on the wiki side by side?
My apologies, I must have accidentally marked this discussion as read, because I seemed to have skipped over it by accident.
Like Janus mentioned, last time discussions was introduced to us we thought it lacked certain functionalities for it to properly work on our wiki. Unless that has changed, the standpoint is the same. I guess I would be fine with having the two live side-by-side.
However one of the things that has been nagging me with Wikia's policies lately is the not so subtle way in which some changes are forced upon the wikia. By saying that "Eventually it will be discussions anyways" you're not really giving the communities the feeling like they can decide what's best for them.
Just thought you might want to know, since it's a thing that I've heard from some other admins as well - Wikia's decision making goes over our heads and that feels a bit shitty.
Hey there! I am aware of the reactions and opinions that you've mentioned, thanks also for saying something about it. The idea at this point is that we're not going to retire forums until discussions are more robust and add back a lot of the features that it's missing right now, so while we don't have a date yet, it is still "eventual". And so we're giving the communities the choice to move forward now in either migrating completely or having the two live side-by-side so that when forums are retired, it's a smooth transition.
That said, it sounds like you guys are cool with enabling discussions here on the wiki and on the app. Let me know if that's not the case and I'll get that ball rolling.
I understand the feeling. But because we can't continue to support a tool that isn't mobile friendly, it's a route we must take. We've plans to make discussions an even more rebust tool, so hopefully by the time we do have to sunset forums, you won't even miss them :)
Thank you and happy new year! Let us know if you have any questions about disussions.